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Nicholas McDonald's avatar

Hey Derek, thanks so much for writing this series. I've really enjoyed it. I will say I think this is probably, while still very good, the post that strikes me as least compelling to someone who's unpersuaded of male only ordination. I think that's because it sounds like after making a great, compelling case that men's bodies are meant to imitate Christ, and women's the church, in the first few posts, you seem to skip from creational biology to church roles in this post. For example, rather than arguing that men's bodies are more biologically fit for the spiritual, emotional and spiritual abuse that pastors take on, I think it would have been a more complete argument if you'd drawn us back to your point about men imitating Christ in this way. I can hear someone saying, "No one's bodies are 'fit' for martyrdom, so that doesn't work." And I think that's probably right. But the point is that men are playing a DRAMATIC role in imitating Christ. Natural theology doesn't really get us there, I don't think.

I still agree with the thrust of everything you're doing on here. I just think this particular post could be made more compelling by filtering everything back through the male/female roles in playing out the drama of Christ and the Church.

Thanks again for all the time you put into this. Super helpful!

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Kim Cosgrove's avatar

Derek, this is excellent. It is so helpful. Thank you for taking the time to write it out.

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